I know you’re thinking “what else could I gain from reading another article on Harlow?”, but trust me there is more. For a start, I’m not sure how many other towns could claim to have adverts warning of ASBOs on their bus services. The local authorities claim that only seven of these orders have been handed out in Harlow, which doesn’t sound bad until you read that at the same time, there was only one in place in Bishops Stortford, and only an Acceptable Behaviour Contract in Sawbridgeworth. Only a few weeks ago, the local newspaper ran a story about how two families were being evicted thanks to their chav teenage sons.
I suppose I should also talk about Occasio House. Now this place isn’t a bad idea in theory – apart from being a large, grey eyesore, it does provide needed housing for teenagers who have had difficulties at home and have been thrown out. The problem is, walking past this place is a nightmare – resident chavs will freely hurl abuse from the windows, if you can hear them over the ridiculously loud garage music. The abuse can be for all sorts of reasons – dyed hair (unless blonde), non-chav clothing, even so much as using a word with more than one syllable. If it marks you out as being not one of their own, they’ll gladly try to belittle you into conformity. In a way, I guess they’re like horror film zombies, only dumber and far, far more infectious – in those films, there always seems to be a way to escape the zombies. You see them hanging about in and around the place all day, and it’s situated right next to the taxi ranks in the town centre, for maximised opportunity to cause an annoyance.
However, another good place to find chavs is also around the main bus station in the town centre, and the nearby market (during the daytime) and newsagents (during the evening). During the daytime, the market square is perhaps the single most popular chav meeting area in the town. It’s close to the bar, the Post Office (so they can collect their dole money), the local Cash Converters and if that wasn’t chav heaven already, the market runs four out of five weekdays. Once these vital chav facilities have closed, they move on to the other side of the bar, where they can find an off-licence and over the road, the bus station. Now, by the time the shops are shutting, the chavs are usually quite drunk, so it’s not uncommon to find shouting matches and fights by the off-licence. The council has installed CCTV there since the chav outbreak. Perhaps the most annoying chav incidents I’ve witnessed happened in the bus shelter. THRILL at female chav of little intelligence sticking her mobile phone into her mouth so the polyphonic ringtone she downloaded sounds even worse! SPILL at chavs sticking chewing gum all over the seats! FALL ILL at the sight of one ultra-annoying chavster riding around the shelter on his motorised scooter tooting the insanely loud horn!
The sad thing is, I haven’t even touched upon the schools that house tons of filthy chavlings. One of them has recently had a police officer permanently stationed there, whilst another has had to implement electronic student ID cards. Whilst growing up, the phrases my mum often heard (and was often proud of hearing) was “your children don’t act like Harlow children” or “your children aren’t from Bishops Stortford, are they?”. The saddest thing of all is that the local council wishes residents to be proud of Harlow. But when it’s strewn with glass on the cycle tracks (one of which has the misspelt message “Harlow Police Suck Dick” sprayed on), when it’s littered with shopping trolleys that were never intended to be returned, and when you can’t wait for a bus without some 13 year old asking you to buy them cigarettes, what have we got to be proud of?
Perhaps the saddest thing of all is that Harlow wouldn’t be a bad place to live, if the population of the town wasn’t the worst example of chav scum I’ve seen.
I am appalled and shocked at some of the outrageous comments made on here about my home town and a town of which I am extremely proud.
Just what is a ‘chav’? If you define being a ‘chav’ as a young person who wears Adidas or Nike jogging trousers, t-shirts and hooded tops, then you are describing my sons to the letter, but I have to tell you that my sons wear these clothes on their days off from work. The eldest lad is a trained medical professional who holds the highest qualifications possible in his field, whilst the other two run successful company’s each with contracts for high class London establishments.
All three of my sons attended Harlow schools and Harlow College and all three left with a portfolio of qualifications. I myself hold an IQ of 136 and am an Essex girl born and bred. My parents are both Essex people too. My Mother was an electrical technician and my Father a research chemist.
Why does an item of clothing deem that you are a certain kind of person? Why cant you just be a person who is wearing these clothes?
So what if girls like the Burberry pattern? This doesn’t make them bad people? In fact, I love Burberry and own a few items in this design, and yet I am not an unmarried single mother with unruly children and yet because I like this design, I should also be labelled as a chav?
On the subject of Beverley Brinkley, whilst she may not have been the towns favourite person and may have made mistakes in her life, but lets not forget that she did leave behind young children and a grieving family of brothers and sisters one of which I know very well and whom is a wonderful kind compassionate man. These are the people being punished by the cruel jibes on their Mother and sister so lets leave it there and leave them to grieve quietly.
Harlow may not be the best town in the UK, but it is my home town and as such, I am proud that I live amongst some of the kindest, compassionate and talented human beings and for that I am grateful. The numbers of these people far out weigh any less favourable elements that there might be here so I prefer to concentrate on the good honest and decent folk rather than on those of less savoury qualities.
Harlow, I am proud to live here and I will never leave!!
To stereotype the Foyer specifically and the town in general because of the few that spoil the atmosphere for everyone is appalling. I am sick and tired of people voicing their opinion about this place when they are truly uninformed and are voicing it in the wrong place. If you want to make a change, form a real petition and take it to the management of the foyer and the council! rather than bitch about it on a website as a keyboard warrior!
I lived in the foyer for almost 5 years.. I helped set up regular residents meetings for the majority of the building that not only wanted to improve the quality of life in that building for everyone concerned but also to improve our image to the general public eye.
Rubbish everywhere, Loud music, Antisocial behaviour and Criminal Behaviour were always top on the agenda for these resident meetings, alongside positive things to help try and reinforce and teach the young people lifeskill’s and community living!
I would send off CV’s to each shop with my own and my parents address on them within a couple of weeks of each other.. and only get responses for those addressed from outside of the foyer.
When I eventually got the job that I had a real passion for and loved. I worked every week and took home less than others in that building who intentionally did nothing for benefits! But I did it purely because I loved what I was doing and felt devoted to it!
I and others consider myself to be a friendly, helpful, approachable and polite person. If I see someone struggle its in my nature to offer help to them.
I have an IQ of 124 and a few GSCEs and general passion for learning – even though my old home life all that time ago was nigh impossible to deal with and prosper in that environment.
People in foyer come from all walks of life.. and generally have something that goes wrong for them at some point which causes them to get stuck there. Whether their chosen path is a good or a bad one, people all make mistakes… But shouldn’t we all have the right to make them and learn from them? And try to better ourselves just as every single other human being on this planet wishes for themselves?
I’m not pretending that I was always perfect? At the end of the day we all have social lives?
But I would always try to be as respectful as I could to residents and visitors of the vicinity..
And for the large part all of the friends that I made and chose to keep were exactly the same!!
I’m also not going to pretend like there isn’t the bad apples just like there are in every town/city. Lets face it. The age of people in the foyer generally means yes, we are more likely to make some naive mistakes, make uninformed decisions, or just generally be ignorant.
But everyone is this age someday, forgive some of us for having a unprivileged upbringing! It may not be limited to that!!
Don’t stereotype the people by the place. Would you stereotype anyone that comes from a specific country? Of course not.. Thats racism!
Dont expect the same of even a building or a Town!
Simple minded biased and opinionated thoughts being shared without looking at the bigger picture can be devastating to all those concerned!!!
Rant over!!
Stephx
For a start,
Foyer is full of a mixture of people, for an article writer you seem to be very streotypical ‘chavs’
‘chavs’ arent just people you can slag of on your silly article, have you ever sat and thought about their backgrounds?
I go to foyer frequently to see a few friends, and their is so much more to some poeple in there than they portray. There are kids who are trying really hard to make something of themselves nad reading this is a real de-motivator!
Teenagers are not the only thing that makes Harlow look bad, you have all the ‘tramps’ which start the teenagers of, i was a victim of an attack in the town centre, when a GROWN MAN came and aggrovated me and all my friends, we hadn’t even acknoledged he was there until he came over to us!
teenagers wouldnt be hanging round in the various places you have mentioned, if the council got off their backsides and actually gave them something to do and somewhere to go. i think its a joke that we now have to pat to go into cafe youth now! teenagers with nothing to do are not going to pay to get in their, they are obviously going to turn to crime, and no wonder the crime rates are going up in harlow. But i find it ridiculous how you point the blame on the ‘chavs’ what kind of example is that anyway?
if the foyer werent so looked down on and not cared about, and the kids who live in their actually got decent help, it wouldnt be half as bad. They are getting no help that is useful to them what so ever, im not sticking up for their behaviour at all, but its hardly dicouraged by their surroundings as the rest of Harlow is a load of shit as well! annoys me so much!!!
I hardly think being asked to pay 20p yes 20p per visit is enough to drive young people to crime when you consider that for that paltry sum you can spend all day with free access to five internet connected pc’s a pool table Wii machine activities and access to advice and support from qualified youth workers and refreshments that are cheaper than you can buy in the local shops. Come on Charlie get real. When I went to my local youth club over forty years ago I had to pay the equivelant of 50p. Why do people in Harlow expect to be given everything for free?
The foya is somewhere to live if you have problems! Not all of us are bad.. Some of the people in harlow like being chavs! Its the way they dress and act. But I don’t think slagging the foya off is the right way about it, we live there have many friends and get to meet more friends… Maybe it isn’t as nice as being at home having your washing done for you ironing food etc. So I don’t think it is irelavant to speak out your opinions you fat c**t
i havent read many of the comments but i just wanted to say that, why are you writing about ‘chavs’ living in occasio house when alot of other types of people live there? I live in Harlow and yes, some people shout abuse, but not at random people. And a chav meeting place is the market? wtf?
‘Chavs’ dp hang about on the streets, but if there were places where teenagers could go maybe this wouldnt be a problem, if teenagers are having trouble at home, where are they supposed to go?
Dont really know why im posting this, just annoyed me that people are bitching about where i live and are over exaggerating it. And also that you are talking about ‘chavs’ like they are the only people that live in Harlow.
you need to get your facts right before you leave comments on things you know nothing about, yes bev brinkly was murdered she was a mum of 3 young girls and was visiously killed on 6 feb 2003. i think the police treated her case so badley cuz of the way the likes of you portrayed her, we are all aloowed to make mistakes in our lives but the people that killed her never give her a chance to make up for the mistakes she made they took that fom her whe they took her life, so if you’ve got nothing nice to say then shut the f**k up you idiot. R.I.P love you bev xxxx
Hot_diggidy_dick, maybe you need to remember its not such a clever thing to speak ill of the dead, and have some compassion for the family as regardless of what the deceased did i’m sure her kids were not responsible. However you are responsible for opening your big mouth so it best you learn a lesson…..
the c**t who is talkin bout my mum bev brinkley needs 2 fukin sort his life out u evil man i really hope sumthing horrible happens 2 u n ur family u sick fuk how can u say things like that she was my mother n i love her u can not begin 2 understand wot losin her done 2 me and my sister n the daughter on the poster she was 10yrs old wen it happend u sick twisted evil little man ppl like u r wat makes harlow so bad
I only have one thing to say about whoever wrote that stupid ridiculous post. Are you still living in the dark ages?
Dont you think that if there was any clubs for teenagers to go to or any social places for them to go to that they would’nt. i know for a fact that i definately would!!!
i cant believe some of the rubbish you have wrote about harlow you obviously are so oblivious too realise how times have changed… yes there are young people getting pregnant but only for the sheer fact that they havent ben taught what getting pregnant really means.. they dont know all that sex educators teach them is how to put condom on a banana. how ridiculous is that?
You do not know anything about teenagers or harlow
sort your f**king facts out!!!
I have to ask. Do you speak this way too?
oh yeah, which school is it that has the poilce officer stationed there (for whatever reason)? im just curious thats all. or arent we allowed to write that on here? my guess is its at Stewards…
im surprised no one heres mentioned Staple Tye actually. id say that was one of the worst places in harlow.
strange u should ask about brinkley…….
i dont know when u posted that comment but shes been dead for about 2 years now. someone murderd her one feb. infact iv just looked it up, check this out: http://www.essex.police.uk/pages/unsolved/un03_03.htm
anyway rumour has it she was attacked with an axe and got it in the back. duno how true that is but i hope it is. sounds harsh i know but unless you live in or close to harlow u wont have any idea just what a nasty piece of work she was. good riddens i say. the murder was to do with drug gangs apparently.
haha and those posters of her daughter pleading for justice are EVERYWHERE. makes me chuckle everytime.
ps. thank god they got rid of that awfull club – millenium! that really was the lowest of the low.
matey hew rit that about my aurntie bev is a f**king little mug come and say it to her family u little prick u hope no one finds out your name u lob
hot diggity dog ur obviously a proper prick wiv ur sick comments about dead people and thinking its funny 2 c little kids upset ur a mug and when people do find out who u are there will prob be a big queue of chavs from lidl to bush fair wanting u so well done u nob head u just earned yourself a kicking xxx kids crying might be funny 2 u but seeing a grown man cry hysterical
im generally annoyed by the comment about the police woman in school, i went to that school and she was there to give kids advice about life and lead them in the right direction, not nick them 4 smoking behind the tree…yeah there are alot of chavs around, but there multiplying and popping up in every town, not just harlow…
Excellent observations.
Donkey – you should be able to get your car stereo back at the Burger King car park next to Toys R Us.
Chavs for teh win, Kiri, Chavs for teh WIN!
Rofl
I agree with you nik, some low life chav nicked my car stereo from right outside my friends house. When we called the police they refused to leave the station as it would be a waste of their time.
I have lived in harlow all my life and yes the place is run down an in need of some serious redevelopment, and yes there ar chavs outside every newsagent and around the the towncentre, as for being a crap place, ill tell u this i usually head of of town on a friday or saturday night into london and i must say that floods of people from surrounding areas i.e stortford, cheshunt, broxbourne etc come streaming out the station to enjoy our facilities, as for the chavs what do u expect them to do the council shut down all the youth clubs years ago and turned them into either gay and lesbian centres or centres for ethnic minorities (im not racist but segregation definately is not the answer only breeds hate). Ill also say i went to the school you mentioned that has had a police officer stationed there and have since gone on to gain professional qualifications and earn around 50k a yr not made me rich, but just pointing out the chavs are a minority for a town of over 100,000 residents ten – twenty chavs hanging round the town centre hardly makes this town scumville, stop complaining about the chavs and try to do something about reopening the youth clubs for the kids across the country, that way instead of aspiring to who is the hardest or who can drink the most white lightning (cheap cider) they may aspirire to whos the best footballer / snooker player etc, give em a chance in life dont kick em when there down
Heh, thank you!
brilliant article nik 100% hilarious
Bev Brinkley was killed near The Stow last year. No arrests have been made.
Have to say though, the cycle paths bug me too, especially given that I want to use my bike to get to the college.