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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing that bothers me about this article, is the spelling and grammer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that bothers me about this article, is the spelling and grammer.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you spell kirkby with a k in you  fucking inbred</description>
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		<title>By: Ex Ormende Pupli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex Ormende Pupli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on. I grew up there and was forced to go back recently. It took me 2 years to feel clean after leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on. I grew up there and was forced to go back recently. It took me 2 years to feel clean after leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>posted by anonymous - enough said</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having grown up in Maghull and Lydiate, I am not about to go and defent the place as I was never really happy there. Thankfully I now live somewhere I&#039;m much happier, somewhere where you&#039;d be hard presssed to find the small-minded cack that people have left here.

Sadly the description looks all too familiar. Having said that, the author&#039;s viewpoint is exaggerated for effect, and should not be taken literally.  I can verify that I do recognize the author&#039;s general impressions. I have not spent much time living in other parts of Liverpool, but I will offer a few comparisons. There does seem to be a kind of hollow cockiness that I haven&#039;t detected quite so much in other areas. I think this comes from people&#039;s dilemma in wanting simultaneously to feel &quot;a cut above&quot; most of the rest of Liverpool, and wanting to be seen as authentically scouse. I would hazard to say that, it has failed to really be either. It has its own character, one that I don&#039;t particularly like, which appears to me to be quite pretentious and shallow. Silly people from this area, and indeed any other area, who try to talk themselves up as &quot;hard&quot; or &quot;bad boys&quot; are doing themselves and their communities a great disservice. Of course, they think the opposite because they see the glamourization of dodgy dealing, violence, and fast cash as the pinnacle of success. May I suggest a rather well known perl of wisdom. People who talk big are usually not so, those who are don&#039;t really need to and in fact know that it is to their advantage to not go shouting about how tough and bad they are. The real deal doesn&#039;t seek to impress through fakery, being bad is a way of life and it&#039;s all they know. The real deal are smart as well as hard, they don&#039;t need to brag about themselves because their reputation precedes them. This kind of lifestyle is nothing to be proud of, it just is.

I think that people from places like Maghull who pretent to be big and bad are just leaving themselves wide open to criticism from those who live in places where there are far more problem. Having said that, I think this kind of &quot;all front&quot; hard man exists all over Liverpool, and indeed in most, if not all, other towns and cities in the UK, and perhaps the whole world. I think that Maghull is an ideal stomping ground for these people because the general population are generally fairly well-off compared with most of the rest of Liverpool, but generally their values no better if not worse. This is of course a gross generalization, and I apologize unreservedly for offending people who live in the area who are not like this, and to those who are, I regard you as parasites.

I went to high school in Maghull and I can confirm that this kind of chavesk attitude and lifestyle was quite pervasive at the time - that was in the 90s. I haven&#039;t lives here for many years but I don&#039;t see any evidence that this has changed.

Having given it a lot of bad press, I&#039;d like to say that despite the deplorable social phenomenon I speak of, there are lots of positives about the town compared with other areas. I do however sympathize with the view that, if I am going to live in Liverpool then I would prefer to live in the real Liverpool rather than some tacky suburb that wants to be seen as the real Liverpool and at the same time a cut above. I&#039;m afraid that, for all it&#039;s merits, I do see Maghull as a kind of jumped up Skelmesdale or Kirby because there are a lot of people here who think they&#039;re a better class of Liverpudlian because they live here; at the same time they want to be accepted as a proper scouser which won&#039;t happen unless they grew up in Liverpool. I&#039;ve never lived in them but areas such as Mossley Hill, Aigburth, Cressington, Woolton, Allerton, Childwall, Calderstones Park are all areas that feel classier and less pretentious. 

As for publishing one&#039;s identity, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a very smart move whoever you are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having grown up in Maghull and Lydiate, I am not about to go and defent the place as I was never really happy there. Thankfully I now live somewhere I&#8217;m much happier, somewhere where you&#8217;d be hard presssed to find the small-minded cack that people have left here.</p>
<p>Sadly the description looks all too familiar. Having said that, the author&#8217;s viewpoint is exaggerated for effect, and should not be taken literally.  I can verify that I do recognize the author&#8217;s general impressions. I have not spent much time living in other parts of Liverpool, but I will offer a few comparisons. There does seem to be a kind of hollow cockiness that I haven&#8217;t detected quite so much in other areas. I think this comes from people&#8217;s dilemma in wanting simultaneously to feel &#8220;a cut above&#8221; most of the rest of Liverpool, and wanting to be seen as authentically scouse. I would hazard to say that, it has failed to really be either. It has its own character, one that I don&#8217;t particularly like, which appears to me to be quite pretentious and shallow. Silly people from this area, and indeed any other area, who try to talk themselves up as &#8220;hard&#8221; or &#8220;bad boys&#8221; are doing themselves and their communities a great disservice. Of course, they think the opposite because they see the glamourization of dodgy dealing, violence, and fast cash as the pinnacle of success. May I suggest a rather well known perl of wisdom. People who talk big are usually not so, those who are don&#8217;t really need to and in fact know that it is to their advantage to not go shouting about how tough and bad they are. The real deal doesn&#8217;t seek to impress through fakery, being bad is a way of life and it&#8217;s all they know. The real deal are smart as well as hard, they don&#8217;t need to brag about themselves because their reputation precedes them. This kind of lifestyle is nothing to be proud of, it just is.</p>
<p>I think that people from places like Maghull who pretent to be big and bad are just leaving themselves wide open to criticism from those who live in places where there are far more problem. Having said that, I think this kind of &#8220;all front&#8221; hard man exists all over Liverpool, and indeed in most, if not all, other towns and cities in the UK, and perhaps the whole world. I think that Maghull is an ideal stomping ground for these people because the general population are generally fairly well-off compared with most of the rest of Liverpool, but generally their values no better if not worse. This is of course a gross generalization, and I apologize unreservedly for offending people who live in the area who are not like this, and to those who are, I regard you as parasites.</p>
<p>I went to high school in Maghull and I can confirm that this kind of chavesk attitude and lifestyle was quite pervasive at the time &#8211; that was in the 90s. I haven&#8217;t lives here for many years but I don&#8217;t see any evidence that this has changed.</p>
<p>Having given it a lot of bad press, I&#8217;d like to say that despite the deplorable social phenomenon I speak of, there are lots of positives about the town compared with other areas. I do however sympathize with the view that, if I am going to live in Liverpool then I would prefer to live in the real Liverpool rather than some tacky suburb that wants to be seen as the real Liverpool and at the same time a cut above. I&#8217;m afraid that, for all it&#8217;s merits, I do see Maghull as a kind of jumped up Skelmesdale or Kirby because there are a lot of people here who think they&#8217;re a better class of Liverpudlian because they live here; at the same time they want to be accepted as a proper scouser which won&#8217;t happen unless they grew up in Liverpool. I&#8217;ve never lived in them but areas such as Mossley Hill, Aigburth, Cressington, Woolton, Allerton, Childwall, Calderstones Park are all areas that feel classier and less pretentious. </p>
<p>As for publishing one&#8217;s identity, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a very smart move whoever you are!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, what a a pretentious and obnoxious pillock you are, &quot;Doctor&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the council band in Maghull is the same as Kirkby, Aintree and Bootle??? Do we a favour mate... what a load of bull shit! A friend of mine has just moved house from Maghull to Aintree as he cant afford Maghull and a friend of mine has moved house and stayed in Maghull and let me tell you that my friend who has moved to Aintree pays at least £60 pound less a month than my friend who lives in Maghull. I know the actual figures they both pay.
Im even laughing at you more now!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the council band in Maghull is the same as Kirkby, Aintree and Bootle??? Do we a favour mate&#8230; what a load of bull shit! A friend of mine has just moved house from Maghull to Aintree as he cant afford Maghull and a friend of mine has moved house and stayed in Maghull and let me tell you that my friend who has moved to Aintree pays at least £60 pound less a month than my friend who lives in Maghull. I know the actual figures they both pay.<br />
Im even laughing at you more now!!</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That &#039;ihatescalls&#039; is another one full of crap! 
You dont even live here mate so how the hell do you know?? 
Saddo!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That &#8216;ihatescalls&#8217; is another one full of crap!<br />
You dont even live here mate so how the hell do you know??<br />
Saddo!!</p>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont even know where to start with the shite some W***** has put.
First of all the Weld Blundell pub is not even in Maghull its in Lydiate so shows how much you know about Maghull for a start. And you cant even be from Liverpool because you cant even spell Kirkby, thats one of many things you have wrote to laugh about.
I have lived in Maghull all my life and i am proud to have been brought up in Maghull. People come from all over Liverpool to bring their kids to Maghull schools FACT so what does that tell you?? Thats its not a decent area?? Dont think so! Its bitter and twisted people like you who have most likely been brought up in not the best of areas and envy people who have, like people from Maghull. Sad that. I know a few people who live nearer town way and some of them are just the same (think their hard when they are not) you get that everywhere. You need to come back down to earth mate. I could go on but i have a life. And the fact that you have left yourself as anonymous says it all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont even know where to start with the shite some W***** has put.<br />
First of all the Weld Blundell pub is not even in Maghull its in Lydiate so shows how much you know about Maghull for a start. And you cant even be from Liverpool because you cant even spell Kirkby, thats one of many things you have wrote to laugh about.<br />
I have lived in Maghull all my life and i am proud to have been brought up in Maghull. People come from all over Liverpool to bring their kids to Maghull schools FACT so what does that tell you?? Thats its not a decent area?? Dont think so! Its bitter and twisted people like you who have most likely been brought up in not the best of areas and envy people who have, like people from Maghull. Sad that. I know a few people who live nearer town way and some of them are just the same (think their hard when they are not) you get that everywhere. You need to come back down to earth mate. I could go on but i have a life. And the fact that you have left yourself as anonymous says it all!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Mike Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Mike Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in maghull most of my life, when I was a teenager i worked in Beechers and Secrets, on a regular basis I used to give lifts home to the guys I worked with at about 3am.  One night I was driving some of the guys back to Cantril Farm and west derby when one of the girls piped up &quot;eh your from Maghull, izznit ded posh der? like, everyone owns there &#039;ouse der?&quot;.  People in Maghull do not have pretensions about house ownership.  For some reason inner city liverpool and the sattellite council estates have a hatred for anyone who has bettered themselves.  Look at the OFSTED results for schools in West Derby, Kirkby, Cantril Farm (sorry Stockbridge Village) and you will see that Maghull does not posses that depressing defeatist, live on benefits and not try to do anything better disease that permeates through west derby.  Sorry if you are scum... not my fault... it&#039;s understandable you hate us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in maghull most of my life, when I was a teenager i worked in Beechers and Secrets, on a regular basis I used to give lifts home to the guys I worked with at about 3am.  One night I was driving some of the guys back to Cantril Farm and west derby when one of the girls piped up &#8220;eh your from Maghull, izznit ded posh der? like, everyone owns there &#8216;ouse der?&#8221;.  People in Maghull do not have pretensions about house ownership.  For some reason inner city liverpool and the sattellite council estates have a hatred for anyone who has bettered themselves.  Look at the OFSTED results for schools in West Derby, Kirkby, Cantril Farm (sorry Stockbridge Village) and you will see that Maghull does not posses that depressing defeatist, live on benefits and not try to do anything better disease that permeates through west derby.  Sorry if you are scum&#8230; not my fault&#8230; it&#8217;s understandable you hate us</p>
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