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		<title>By: Scouseland dweller</title>
		<link>http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/2010/06/liverpool-2/comment-page-1/#comment-329392</link>
		<dc:creator>Scouseland dweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m born and bred Liverpool, from a nice part - Aigburth. But I&#039;ve also lived in a few different places including London and Manchester, both of which I found far worse in terms of threatening, depressing atmosphere than Liverpool. 

The places and people listed here in this blog do exist in my fair city - as they do in most UK cities, but anyone with anyy urban savvy just avoids that. And you don&#039;t aggrivate the rough looking types wherever you go. Would you cross the path of a New York gangster? Does their presence make New York a bad place...

Liverpool has a stronger community and artistic culture than any other English provincial city - but if you choose to look away from that and follow the media pack to focus on the bad aspects of the city then that&#039;s your choice...But please don&#039;t then complain about iwhat you find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m born and bred Liverpool, from a nice part &#8211; Aigburth. But I&#8217;ve also lived in a few different places including London and Manchester, both of which I found far worse in terms of threatening, depressing atmosphere than Liverpool. </p>
<p>The places and people listed here in this blog do exist in my fair city &#8211; as they do in most UK cities, but anyone with anyy urban savvy just avoids that. And you don&#8217;t aggrivate the rough looking types wherever you go. Would you cross the path of a New York gangster? Does their presence make New York a bad place&#8230;</p>
<p>Liverpool has a stronger community and artistic culture than any other English provincial city &#8211; but if you choose to look away from that and follow the media pack to focus on the bad aspects of the city then that&#8217;s your choice&#8230;But please don&#8217;t then complain about iwhat you find.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born and brought up in Toxteth. Loved the place, loved Liverpool, loved the people there. But that was a long time ago. I left there when I was in my 20s. Have not been back much since, and every time I did go back was sorrier than the time before. Scruffy? Dilapidated? The place looks worse than it did after the Germans had bombed it! The difference is, that no-one was defeated then. Now, that seems to be the prevailing atmosphere.  And never try to hint at that. The drawbridge had been pulled up, defensiveness reigns.  Example: I was in a restaurant in  France a few years ago and heard two couples on the next table talking - Liverpool accents. I asked them which part of the city they were from. I hadn&#039;t realised my accent had changed so much over the years, because one of the men asked aggressively &#039;Oh, you know Liverpool, do you?&#039;  I said I was from there. 
&#039;Oh, yes? Which part?&#039;
&#039;Toxteth.&#039;
Longish silence. Then reluctantly, &#039;You don&#039;t sound as if you&#039;re from Toxteth.&#039;
&#039;And you don&#039;t fucking sound as if you&#039;re from Liverpool. The people there used to be friendly.&#039;
I&#039;d picked up from their conversation before I spoke to them that these four people were teachers. No wonder the defensiveness, the apathy, the resistance to change is ingrained by now. Maybe it&#039;s on the school curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born and brought up in Toxteth. Loved the place, loved Liverpool, loved the people there. But that was a long time ago. I left there when I was in my 20s. Have not been back much since, and every time I did go back was sorrier than the time before. Scruffy? Dilapidated? The place looks worse than it did after the Germans had bombed it! The difference is, that no-one was defeated then. Now, that seems to be the prevailing atmosphere.  And never try to hint at that. The drawbridge had been pulled up, defensiveness reigns.  Example: I was in a restaurant in  France a few years ago and heard two couples on the next table talking &#8211; Liverpool accents. I asked them which part of the city they were from. I hadn&#8217;t realised my accent had changed so much over the years, because one of the men asked aggressively &#8216;Oh, you know Liverpool, do you?&#8217;  I said I was from there.<br />
&#8216;Oh, yes? Which part?&#8217;<br />
&#8216;Toxteth.&#8217;<br />
Longish silence. Then reluctantly, &#8216;You don&#8217;t sound as if you&#8217;re from Toxteth.&#8217;<br />
&#8216;And you don&#8217;t f**king sound as if you&#8217;re from Liverpool. The people there used to be friendly.&#8217;<br />
I&#8217;d picked up from their conversation before I spoke to them that these four people were teachers. No wonder the defensiveness, the apathy, the resistance to change is ingrained by now. Maybe it&#8217;s on the school curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: London Student in Liverpool</title>
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		<dc:creator>London Student in Liverpool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 16:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I moved to Liverpool, up by London Road City Centre, 2 months ago.

I have lived in pretty awful areas of South East London and a few chavvy areas of Kent. 

But nothing could prepare me for the outright lunacy of Liverpool City centre.
-I cannot walk to the gym without being asked for a pound by at least 3 street alcoholics
-Scally lads do start on you randomly, when you are alone, especially when they hear a London accent.
-Drugs (both dealing and taking) are rife throughout the City Centre, on street corners and outside bars/clubs.
-Church Street with its many shops and shoppers are not immune to daytime invasions by roaming groups of youths attempting to intimidate, coupled with middle aged men already steaming drunk.
-London Road has groups of people, ranging from 14 to 34, congregating outside the off license most weekends.
-Down by Vauxhall Road on a Saturday afternoon ou will see the kids playing out the front of the pub, abusing passers by, whilst their parents drink inside the dingy drinking den.

In short, it is not the hustle and bustle city of culture I was sold. However, in fairness, many of the cab drivers are polite and engage in conversation. Alot of the service received in the higher end shops is just as good as that received in London. In the main there are many friendly people living and working in the city centre but against the backdrop of crime and anti-social behaviour createed by the scummy few, they do not stand out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to Liverpool, up by London Road City Centre, 2 months ago.</p>
<p>I have lived in pretty awful areas of South East London and a few chavvy areas of Kent. </p>
<p>But nothing could prepare me for the outright lunacy of Liverpool City centre.<br />
-I cannot walk to the gym without being asked for a pound by at least 3 street alcoholics<br />
-Scally lads do start on you randomly, when you are alone, especially when they hear a London accent.<br />
-Drugs (both dealing and taking) are rife throughout the City Centre, on street corners and outside bars/clubs.<br />
-Church Street with its many shops and shoppers are not immune to daytime invasions by roaming groups of youths attempting to intimidate, coupled with middle aged men already steaming drunk.<br />
-London Road has groups of people, ranging from 14 to 34, congregating outside the off license most weekends.<br />
-Down by Vauxhall Road on a Saturday afternoon ou will see the kids playing out the front of the pub, abusing passers by, whilst their parents drink inside the dingy drinking den.</p>
<p>In short, it is not the hustle and bustle city of culture I was sold. However, in fairness, many of the cab drivers are polite and engage in conversation. Alot of the service received in the higher end shops is just as good as that received in London. In the main there are many friendly people living and working in the city centre but against the backdrop of crime and anti-social behaviour createed by the scummy few, they do not stand out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 02:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with three things here;

Firstly its not just the balck shell suit wearing gobshites that ruin the city its the older people too! If you live in Liverpool or unfortunate enough to have to visit anywhere other than the immaculate L1 area (Where all this investment has gone), you cant walk 5 yards without stepping in dog shit, or kicking through piles of litter! I&#039;ve seen older men not scalls throwing full bags of takeaways etc out of pretty nice cars! 

Secondly &quot;decent folk&quot; must be the minority as these children are someones son or daughter, the city is a mess, no one speaks out, no one does anything, I&#039;ve been back in liverpool 12 months and had many altercations as I cant hold my anger in!

eg kids smashing bottles on kids playground, man 30 something casually taking a piss on the train station broad daylight! (&amp; Not a mentalist Just scum) What on earth happened to this country to create these animals?

Thirdly the investment went in to things such as luxury apartments or retail areas ie L1. This does nothing for anyone. However do not for one minute think any real investment will fix these scumbags, any money you put in will be wasted.

Anything nice implimented &amp; paid for in this city for this city will be broken ruined vandalised pissed on by these animals, unless heavily guarded.

In my opinion there should only be one method of investment

Build a big electric fence around any area with an L postcode.

I&#039;ll have left by the time its finished!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with three things here;</p>
<p>Firstly its not just the balck shell suit wearing gobshites that ruin the city its the older people too! If you live in Liverpool or unfortunate enough to have to visit anywhere other than the immaculate L1 area (Where all this investment has gone), you cant walk 5 yards without stepping in dog shit, or kicking through piles of litter! I&#8217;ve seen older men not scalls throwing full bags of takeaways etc out of pretty nice cars! </p>
<p>Secondly &#8220;decent folk&#8221; must be the minority as these children are someones son or daughter, the city is a mess, no one speaks out, no one does anything, I&#8217;ve been back in liverpool 12 months and had many altercations as I cant hold my anger in!</p>
<p>eg kids smashing bottles on kids playground, man 30 something casually taking a piss on the train station broad daylight! (&amp; Not a mentalist Just scum) What on earth happened to this country to create these animals?</p>
<p>Thirdly the investment went in to things such as luxury apartments or retail areas ie L1. This does nothing for anyone. However do not for one minute think any real investment will fix these scumbags, any money you put in will be wasted.</p>
<p>Anything nice implimented &amp; paid for in this city for this city will be broken ruined vandalised pissed on by these animals, unless heavily guarded.</p>
<p>In my opinion there should only be one method of investment</p>
<p>Build a big electric fence around any area with an L postcode.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have left by the time its finished!</p>
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		<title>By: Adolf Wolfwhistle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adolf Wolfwhistle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 09:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate Liverpool,I lived there for 6 months and I was attacked by a beetle.There was a knock at the door one afternoon,I open it and there was this giant black beetle who head butted me,knocking me to the floor,then run off laughing.An hour later it was back,puched me in the face,then ran off laughing again.Two days later it was back this time it just spat in my face and ran off laughing the bastard.An hour later it was at it agian,this time it kicked me in the bollocks,I went to the docters with infamed balls,he said not to worry as it was usual for a nasty bug to be going around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate Liverpool,I lived there for 6 months and I was attacked by a beetle.There was a knock at the door one afternoon,I open it and there was this giant black beetle who head butted me,knocking me to the floor,then run off laughing.An hour later it was back,puched me in the face,then ran off laughing again.Two days later it was back this time it just spat in my face and ran off laughing the bastard.An hour later it was at it agian,this time it kicked me in the bollocks,I went to the docters with infamed balls,he said not to worry as it was usual for a nasty bug to be going around.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a scouser living in Liverpool and I agree with you also. The only part I wouldn&#039;t agree on is your 10% ratio. I think it&#039;s more than that. Liverpool would be the most amazing place without these aggressive, waste of space, scumbags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a scouser living in Liverpool and I agree with you also. The only part I wouldn&#8217;t agree on is your 10% ratio. I think it&#8217;s more than that. Liverpool would be the most amazing place without these aggressive, waste of space, scumbags.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Bettrice Spencer Piers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Bettrice Spencer Piers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 10:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes well Im from Kessington in London,(Sloane square)and myself and Papas maid whos from India and a ex model,very good bone structure very good bloodline for a servent,nearly as good looking as myself aha ha.......ahahaharrrrr.Any way our Range Rover,bit of a old banger ah ha.......hahaharrrrrr,nearly 13 months old,broke down in this Liverpool place,at night,last year,and we were terrified of becoming victims of a crimminal act as everyone was trying to help us,being over friendly,ahah.....ahhaharrrr peasant types with Lidls carrier bags and trainers.And they all seemed to smell rather and talk in a strange accent like nothing Ive ever experienced before,a sort of demented yokal type speak,the kind you here on Tv when you see those Beatles chappeys on those old black and white films,A Hard Nights Weekday,when their letting all their hairs hang out,and grooving it up in the way poor people do,aha...ahahaharrrr.Some cheap chaps were whistling at us as they drove past,ugly types shouting &quot;whahayy showus yer mellons&quot;crimminals most proberly,after mellons,we didnt have any mellons to give them,we were golly scared I can tell you,aha...ahhaha...haaarrrr.In the end Daddys driver came to the rescue,he was a body gaurd for Prince Charles,rough type been in the SAS,he soon shoowed the smelly people away from us,god I could still smell them on my clothes all the way home,I burnt them then covered myself in disinfectant,then sat in the sauna for 12 hours,ah...ahhahahaaaaaarrrrrrrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes well Im from Kessington in London,(Sloane square)and myself and Papas maid whos from India and a ex model,very good bone structure very good bloodline for a servent,nearly as good looking as myself aha ha&#8230;&#8230;.ahahaharrrrr.Any way our Range Rover,bit of a old banger ah ha&#8230;&#8230;.hahaharrrrrr,nearly 13 months old,broke down in this Liverpool place,at night,last year,and we were terrified of becoming victims of a crimminal act as everyone was trying to help us,being over friendly,ahah&#8230;..ahhaharrrr peasant types with Lidls carrier bags and trainers.And they all seemed to smell rather and talk in a strange accent like nothing Ive ever experienced before,a sort of demented yokal type speak,the kind you here on Tv when you see those Beatles chappeys on those old black and white films,A Hard Nights Weekday,when their letting all their hairs hang out,and grooving it up in the way poor people do,aha&#8230;ahahaharrrr.Some cheap chaps were whistling at us as they drove past,ugly types shouting &#8220;whahayy showus yer mellons&#8221;crimminals most proberly,after mellons,we didnt have any mellons to give them,we were golly scared I can tell you,aha&#8230;ahhaha&#8230;haaarrrr.In the end Daddys driver came to the rescue,he was a body gaurd for Prince Charles,rough type been in the SAS,he soon shoowed the smelly people away from us,god I could still smell them on my clothes all the way home,I burnt them then covered myself in disinfectant,then sat in the sauna for 12 hours,ah&#8230;ahhahahaaaaaarrrrrrrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 23:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scouser agreeing 100% (Walton born and bred)</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 02:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im from Liverpool and I actually agree with what you have said. Only in regards to 10% of the popualtion being the way you described. The 90% are great like me haha. The 10% are the minority who bring us down - who the hell shoots a 10 year old kid?! However, I love Liverpool and its only getting better now thanks to much needed investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im from Liverpool and I actually agree with what you have said. Only in regards to 10% of the popualtion being the way you described. The 90% are great like me haha. The 10% are the minority who bring us down &#8211; who the hell shoots a 10 year old kid?! However, I love Liverpool and its only getting better now thanks to much needed investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a scouser myself I have to agree wholeheartedly, and I fully agree that, sadly, most of the obvious and serious issues with the scale/chav issues Liverpool has stem from my generation. But it truly is something that seems to have come from... I don&#039;t know, I want to call it inbreeding, because sometimes, the idiocy and attitude of many of these; the men who&#039;ve never worked a day in their life, drink like alcohol is a life source, and their wives who are often somewhat similar, have in only one or two generations, managed to instill such a close minded attitude in their caldron that they cannot spell the word aspiration, let alone comprehend it. 
I wish I could say I was proud of where I come from, and I guess in some small way I am proud of coming from somewhere with the history Liverpool has. But at the same time, I&#039;m extremely thankful I don&#039;t have a scouse accent, because if I did I doubt I&#039;d ever hear the end of it in any other part of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a scouser myself I have to agree wholeheartedly, and I fully agree that, sadly, most of the obvious and serious issues with the scale/chav issues Liverpool has stem from my generation. But it truly is something that seems to have come from&#8230; I don&#8217;t know, I want to call it inbreeding, because sometimes, the idiocy and attitude of many of these; the men who&#8217;ve never worked a day in their life, drink like alcohol is a life source, and their wives who are often somewhat similar, have in only one or two generations, managed to instill such a close minded attitude in their caldron that they cannot spell the word aspiration, let alone comprehend it.<br />
I wish I could say I was proud of where I come from, and I guess in some small way I am proud of coming from somewhere with the history Liverpool has. But at the same time, I&#8217;m extremely thankful I don&#8217;t have a scouse accent, because if I did I doubt I&#8217;d ever hear the end of it in any other part of the country.</p>
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